The Obama camp is reportedly looking for a rape survivor who was billed for her rape kit to appear in an ad. The ad is intended to dramatize a dark episode in Sarah Palin's political past. As Mayor of Wasilla, Sarah Palin signed off on a budget that cut off city funds for rape exams, forcing many women to pay out of pocket.
Megan at Jezebel thinks it's disturbing that the campaign would ask a survivor to come to them. It strikes her as importantly different to have a victim volunteer, as opposed to having the campaign put out a call.
I disagree. If a woman answers the Obama campaign's call, it will be an act of incredible bravery. She will be viciously attacked by conservatives. The campaign must make sure the woman is briefed on what's likely to happen to her. Death threats are virtually guaranteed. Bushels of hate mail. Disgusting jokes at her expense. She could lose her job. She might lose friends. It's a serious commitment. But if a woman chooses to share her story, knowing the potential repercussions, that's admirable.
Amanda is right, the campaign wouldn't be exploiting a volunteers as long as the volunteer chose to lend her story to the campaign. I bothers me that calling an act "political" is tantamount to calling it tawdry or trivial. Political motives can be profound. People die for their political beliefs.
While researching this article, I had the privilege of interviewing survivors who were billed for their kits. I stress that my subjects didn't have any partisan agenda, they were talking to me as a reporter. The Rape and Incest National Network (RAINN), a meticulously non-partisan organization, was kind enough to put the word out to their speaker's bureau. I spoke to four or five women who were charged. (None had been raped in Alaska.)
I was impressed by how willing, indeed how determined, these women were to talk on the record using their full real names.
Hannah French, 27-year-old office manager from Tennessee talked about what it was like to have to go to the bank and get a notorized document to stop the collection calls from a hospital in Mississippi while she trying to cope with the aftermath of being raped by her best friend's husband. She said that one of the hardest things about surviving rape was having nowhere she could go to talk because nobody knew what to say to her. She said she thought even shows like "Law and Order Special Victims" were important because they brought up the issue of rape on a weekly basis.
The National Sexual Assault Hotline is 1-800-656-HOPE. You can also reach the new National Sexual Assault Online Hotline at rainn.org.
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Thanks Lindsay
interesting news to be sure.
Good Morning Lindsay,
frankly Jezebel is wrong. anyone watching any ad on this subject will be overwhelmed with sympathy for the survivor and not the machinations behind her appearance
no one’s gonna think about that until the CorpMedia concern trolls start wringing their hands, and by then the point will have been made
Sounds to me like getting raped twice.
This story has had my eyebrows up from the beginning, because I figured that–if it were true–somebody would have come forward by now. I realize that this is flawed logic, but there it is. Forget the Obama campaign. “The Enquirer” has been up there for weeks sniffing out stories. They will generally pay good money for a good story. If something like this happened, there would be documentary evidence (a bill) of it. But nothing has come out yet. My guess is that, even if Palin wanted to bill rape victims for rape kits, it never actually happened. I doubt this had anything to do with her, either. My suspicion is that the police and the emergency room staff who typically work with rape victims simply found ways around the policy.
The Gloves are off Obama is finally bringing a gun to a knife fight he’s fighting the Chicago Way! About time to I was starting to think he was from the burbs.
(full disclosure I’m from the burbs)
And he is going after Sarah none of this false feminism stuff we can’t be mean to girl. Politically i suppose its easier than attacking a POW.
McCain has had people in Alaska who I’m sure have cleaned things up. ET is from there he might have the real scoop.
and on a related note:
I have been screaming for an Anti Wolf Hunting ad since Palin was picked - believing all along it would wreak havoc among her PTA Moms/Dads voters
well, whadda ya know . . .
Defenders of Wildlife have been running an ad
- wildly coincidental this is where her numbers have been softening
oh and,
no prisoners !
I think some women have to talk its part of their healing process.
Yeah last few weeks of the campaign No Prisoners! We do not have to lie like McCain has been doing since the Summer to win we got the issues on our side and John and Sarah’s record to run against!
As awful as it is to think about charging victims, I don’t think that the Obama campaign has the time to focus on something like this. Palin seems quite capable of destroying herself. Obama needs to focus only on McC.
If this happens, I expect the victim will be treated with the utmost dignity and sensitivity by the Obama campaign. But then again, I expect nothing less from the next President of the United States.
By contrast, I heard McShortFuse interviewed on NPR this AM. I could literally feel the anger over the airwaves.
Its about time we start to fight back I was afraid Obama was to nice!
omg
Wednesday, October 1, 2008 - 9:18 AM EDT
Poll: Obama has 15-point lead over McCain in PennsylvaniaPittsburgh Business Times
They haven’t been doing a great job thus far, and I have a hard time imagining how they’d cover something like this up. If there were any actual cases, the victims’ centers would know about it, and I haven’t seen anyone yet come forward to say that they even know of someone who got a bill. Don’t get me wrong, I definitely think this needs to be investigated, but I don’t think it’s going to go anywhere.
I wonder if the Mythbusters on cable TV could grow plants that listen to McCain’s speeches another set that listen to Obama speeches another that listens to heavy metal and another that listens to classical.
she is not for womens issues,this needs to be pointed out…imo
We will see, me I’m just happy Obama is fighting back at last!
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Frank,
I’d be ready to agree with you . . .until I saw this:
could be just standard Republics stupidity or carelessness in not responding to a major publication - but where there’s smoke…
LOL
My fifth grader did that experiement a couple years ago (no McCain, just classical vs. rock). If I remember correctly, Foo Fighters won. Go figure…
I believe a victim of Rape is should feel any shame. If any of these people were beaten and mugged they would be considered Victims, that’s all. The very idea that a rape victim shouldn’t be sought after because the were raped is reinforcing that false idea that the victim somehow is personally tainted because of the crime. In fact the word Survivor is inappropriate too. You don’t go around saying she’s a mugging survivor.
Absolutely. It just seems a little late in the game, but this should be talked about by someone in Obama’s campaign even if they are not looking for a woman who will make a public statement.
It would be cruelty to plants to make them listen to John McCain, but maybe your 5th grader could do that experiment with McCain’s speeches in the Name of Science!
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Free online comic the artist works at my Seattle comic shop.
jeebus - just watched the wolf hunting ad - absolutely brutal
did I mention they are gonna run it in the St Louis market just before the debate on Thursday ??
karma’s a bitch aint it Sarah
Like I said, I think it needs to be followed up, but I just don’t think there’s any there there.
Maybe Gwen Ifil can work in a question about that for the VP debate.
Why would victims come forward to a campaign without first knowing that the campaign had an interest in their stories?
Do we know that this actually happened? I have seen it mentioned a number of times but I have never seen real evidence that Palin wanted woman charged. It’s not that I doubt it but if it’s going to be a topic, the Obama campaign needs to be sure it happened.
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I hope all had a restful and peaceful sleep last night
Great post Lindsay and I also agree that it is not politicalization. for too long this has been a taboo subject and what has been the result? Women and crimes against women need to have a bright spotlight shone on them. We are not 2nd class citizens.
Hi,
A poster on a board I frequent pushed the same article (from Politico) and later provided an image. It was a fax, and was clearly a casting call looking for an actress to portray a victim, not a search for a real victim. FWIW
Last year, Palin’s office announced the state would offer cash to kill wolves. Incentives included offering volunteer pilots and aerial gunner teams $150 for turning in the forelegs of freshly killed wolves.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/n.....each_o.php
Isn’t this the kind of Government waste of the tax payers money McCain hates?
The fact is that she had to be at least cursory aware of it as the head of the police talked about it as a bugetary issue. as mayor she had to been alerted to changes in the budget or?
oy excuse the spelling errors. my fingers must still be asleep
Women were charged Sarah was Mayor I have heard some spin that Sarah’s police chief gave the order but for Sarah to say but it wasn’t me, or maybe I didn’t know will sound weak.
I bet she goes for the long boring nonanswer answer, or changes the subject/ignores the question/ attacks Obama.
McCain only pretends to hate that stuff to give his lobbyist pals cover.
Also Gwen Ifil is the moderator of the debate she is shopping buddies with Condi she is not in the tank with Obama I can barely stand her somedays.
As I said, not doubting it at all but hope that Obama will have firm evidence before it is mentioned - touchy subject. Never ask the question unless you know what the answer is going to be. He’s doing so great - don’t want a misstep now.
even without any victims coming forward, there is ample proof Palin was aware of the policy:
HuffPo
To hear scarborough this morning, she is in the tank for obama and is horribly partisan. what a tool
true
Understood and totally agreed.
but one of the things that really creases me is the idea that crimes against women are these things that can’t be discussed in a political arena. For those of us that have been victims, are related to victims or fight for the right to be heard, it is important that we know where these people stand when it comes to this issue
Gwen is a shopping buddy with Condi and she is in the tank for Obama hmmm? because she is black?
My worry is that if no woman WAS ever charged Palin will just say “oh, we talked about it but decided it was wrong, so we didn’t do it.” She seems to have an excuse for everything.
i’m not sure it makes sense, to me, to be putting together an ad such as this against Gov. Palin. Sen. Obama is running against Sen. McCain policy, not Palin. I think it would be fine for some investigative reporter to work up a report such as this, but it doesn’t make sense, to me, to have it as an Obama campaign ad.
i suppose it may make more sense if it were included in an Obama ad that has some comment about McCain policy too, such as a team anti-ad of some kind.
~itunkala
With that reasoning Joe is pro McCain because he is white oh wait that does sound true my bad.
you think? /s He is so transparent and I’m so tired of people lumping minorities together as though we are a homogeneous lot
Good question I have no idea
Twain,
Senator Obama will not let anything air without verification and backup verification, prolly backup on the backup
the man has redefined Abundance of Caution
Yeah Gwen is a Condi supporter if Condi had run there would be a conflict of interest for Gwen to moderate the debate, what more could Joe want!
LOL
(laughing) - too true.
I wonder what her shoe closet must look like
OT
Senators spinning wildly that public is changing attitude about bailout. Both Martinez & Schumer were on CNBC saying their incoming constituent against/for changed dramatically after Monday’s stock market selloff.
The fix is in.
Ian has a shiny new post up entitled: “Bill Forming in the House: One Last Chance to Replace the Paulson Bill With a Good Bill”
You said it
here ya go
LOL. I’m sure the boots are in the ‘other’ room
sufficent..SKY IS FALLING
Didn’t I just this morning see a Planned Parenthood ad with just such a theme? A woman named Gretchen was in the ad, and noted Palin’s policy of charging for the exams, with McCain’s face in the ad.
you know, they could do the add without an actual survivor…it could be voice over and generic; though a woman survivor who was billed could make it better, a woman survivor from another state would be fine.
Is this worse than McCain’s ad? “The McCain campaign is looking for a survivor of a botched abortion.”? Advertising is a tough business but people are much more likely to listen to people then a bunch of bullets. If you want to win - you need help from people that don’t want these anti-victim policies in our government.
Thank you Lindsay. important issue. brave women.
This is a sharp move if true on Obama’s part.
Palin continues to be the cutesy doll of the puritans.
Time to great her to the big leagues.
*If you’ve been watching the self proclaimed PITBULL WITH LIPSTICK was silent as Obama made reference to lipstick on a pig. McCain came out demanding an appology from Obama for Palin.
*Then recently Katie interviewing Palin/McCain asked Palin if she would like to retract or appoligize for her announcing she & McCain would attack Pakistan if there were confirmed targets of Al Qaida. Palin was silent again, Mccain interrupted in anger and answered Katie. Only then Palin chimed in with “yeah, what he said”. John might be heading for one of those volcanic eruptions we have all heard of.
It seems incredible that with little people know of Palin that they are so devoted. Maybe it is just the cutesy doll, or she portrays she is a christian warrior and that is all she needs to be for the right wing?
It is like some of these big GOP’ers writting poorly of Palin. They will vote for her against Obama in the end. They came to support McCain the Maverick when the said they expressed disdain for him.
If I was a rape victim from a small town, I would never appear in a national ad, no matter how good the cause. Maybe I am a coward, but it would make me feel way to vulnerable and exposed. I think the Obama camp should try to find local persons who witnessed the effects of Palin’s rape kit malarkey on clients, friends, etc.
I don’t think she necessarily wanted “women” charged…but she did want the city to obtain reimbursement for the “kits”. Palin was mayor and the new Police Chief she installed instituted the policy. Now something like this involves fiscal policy…it would have to be cleared through his superior, the mayor.
The initial policy didn’t include seeking funds for the insurer. Yet THAT policy was changed about two years along. One has to wonder WHY? All of a sudden something made the Chief realize there was an issue? That trying to obtain recompense from a woman could be problematical? If there were no cases of rape when the original policy was in force, then why change it to include “payment by insurer”? I can only think that an actual rape occurred and they tried to charge the woman but she refused or couldn’t afford it…thus they decided to go after her insurer.
THAT deceision, of course, could not have occurred without the Mayor’s involvement. Again, it was not only a fiscal decision, but had legal repercussions. Once again, that would point to the mayors knowledge and involvement.
Lastly, wasn’t Wasilla one of the few towns which was “noticed” as having this policy…a situation that was ended when the Alaskan legislature banned the practice? WHO brought that policy to the attention of legislators? Was the Rep. from Wasilla (no friend of Palin) a co-sponsor of the bill? Usually such policies are not even known about until an actual incident exposes them. So what happened here?
The local Wasilla paper requested that the City Clerk examine billing records that might indicate any charges for “rape kits”, or reimbursements, and found none. But those records only go back to almost exactly the time that the State enacted the ban on such policies…so there would have been no charges afterwards. But the earlier files had been “cleansed”. The Wasilla clerk says such purging is, of course, “a matter of policy”.