Sen. Joe Biden of Delaware brushed off a small throng of veepstakes-crazed reporters gathered at his Wilmington home today, saying "I'm not the guy":
As Delaware Sen. Joe Biden left his home a few minutes ago, golf clubs in tow, he was asked where he was going to be on Saturday.
Biden replied, "Here" and pointed down to his driveway.
As he pulled out of the driveway in the driver's seat of his car he then said to the press gathered near his gate, "You guys have better things to do. I'm not the guy. [NBC][Video]
Now, you might assume that Biden's statement means that he's out of contention for the VP slot, but nothing is that simple in the high stakes world of VP voodoo.
Did Biden mean that Obama told him that he was out of the running? Steve Clemons of the Washington Note speculates that Biden's just going to keep saying he's not the guy until he gets some positive indication that he is.
On the other hand, maybe the Obama campaign has already turned Biden down flat. They've already burst Wes Clark's bubble.
Many people consider Biden a top contender for the VP slot, in large part because of his foreign policy experience. Biden chairs the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. His recent fact-finding mission to Georgia only served to burnish his image as a statesman.
Conventional wisdom as it that Obama needs a vice president with foreign policy experience.
How badly does Biden want the job? Biden was willing to say categorically in late 2007 that he wasn't interested in being Hillary Clinton's VP. (He said he felt that Bill Clinton would overshadow a Hillary Clinton presidency.)
Obama will text message supporters to announce his pick before the Democratic National Convention.
Biden is scheduled to speak at the DNC.
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uh… whatchoo doin on cliff’s page?
Digg it!
Y’all really need to figure out the posting/cross-posting/send us to another area of the site thing, AND the comments. There were 2 comments to this post when it was on the “main page” at FDL, then it was 404, then it showed up with comments off. It’s more than a little bit annoying.
You think Obama will blow everyone’s mind and pick Hillary?
Yah, my bad. Messed up the back scene coding. My apologies to all. Didn’t realize I’d deep six the comments, though in retrospect I suppose it should have been obvious.
Biden has that GRIN problem, may as well have grillz
It doesn’t really matter who Obama chooses — his choice is damn near guaranteed to piss off more than half of the party. One would hope that we’ll get over our little fits of pique, pull up our socks, grow up (I’m talking to you, PUMA putzes), and work together to defeat that antediluvian fossil.
I agree. Obama has always run as a bipartisan centrist. So, I think it is silly to demand things of him that he never promised. Biden or any of the other Great White Bread Hopes that have been mentioned would be OK. Or Clinton.
Obama is just a means to get the process for reform started. It will take decades to get it done, with some reversals along the way.
Any VP choice that has been mentioned is OK with me, as long as it helps him get elected, and helps with turnout for downticket Congressional and state races.
Sort of semi-on-off-topic — Has anyone heard anything about planned protests/riots being planned by “our side” in Denver? This post seems to have more information than you can shake a stick at, and concerns me more than a little bit.
So where did my comment go?
Did the comment monster eat it?
Eh, I can think of some picks that wouldn’t piss off half the party. Obama just doesn’t seem to be considering those folks (for example, Clark.)
I sighted an Al Gore veep rumor a few days ago. That would be an interesting pick. Probably not going to happen.
I think he’s picked Hillary, and I think that Big Dawg is going to introduce her. JMHO
Gad Lindsey, 3 posts in one day? Yer a machine. I’d prefer Biden play some role other than VP. Sorry to hear the dissed Clark, I’d prefer they at least keep him on board as a surrogate, particularly because his military service vastly overshadows that of McCain.
As mentioned elsewhere, dkos reports a rumor that it will be Sibelius.
All things considered I’d a whole lot rather he taps Al Gore. ;~)
Woo Hoo. Rachel Maddow gets her own slot on MSNBC after Olbermann.
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/.....-on-msnbc/
Sadly, the comment monster did indeed munch down. He mumbled something about “much tastier than those cookies you usually feed me.”
to defeat that antediluvian fossil.
Well, that altogether screws up my theory that McCrazy and Noah might have been class-mates.
I read that Clark has been told to go away, politically. That puzzles me, since I think Clark’s skills and perspective are needed badly. Certainly message has been sent out that Clark is definitely not a possibility for VP. Why not Clark?
All I can think of is maybe his kind of poor show as a campaigner in his own run was seen as a problem.
You must have missed the last few announcements. Cliff announced a few weeks ago that he was not able to give the Silo all the attention it deserved so John Gorenfeld took it over. Then John realized it was too much for him as well so over the weekend Lindsay came in to the Silo and is already doing a bang up job (as if anyone could have doubted that fact!)
So where did my comment go?
how much is it worth to you to get it back?
j/k
Should that happen you won’t BELIEVE the howling and screaming and gnashing of teeth you’ll hear from the Purer Than Pure Progressives. I’d be fine with him, though, because I’m old enough to be a realist.
I think that the “recreate 68″ stupid thing is a Rovian thing..or Limbaugh creation….
I was asked about this several days ago now–by a mocking Rethug.
I just listened to Gilgamesh, the oldest known source of the flood epic, 1000 years before the OT. Antidiluvian therefore makes McCain more than a thousand years older than Noah.
If you dig down into the stuff this guy dug up I’m not so sure.
“agitators” not Dems rioting.
My 24 was reaponding to Marion’s 9. FDL site has been eating comments for several days now; or chopping them too.
Which is central to my point… (Ow. That hurts. Don’t try to channel the Doughy Pantload without a Hazmat suit…)
Even the word “rioting” brings another type of riot to mind…it’s bait. Besides, if someone is going to “riot”…lock them up. Protests no, but riots, yes.
I think they really were very displeased with the whole “being a POW doesn’t qualify John McCain” thing — mainly that he didn’t back down as fast as they would have liked, they didn’t want to have that conversation in the press at that time.
That’s what I was thinking - he’s realized she’d be the greatest help in the general.
Utterly and completely off topic — how did the elderberry preserves work for you? May I serve them for breakfast on Sunday? I’ll supply the croissants…
explains the wrinkles.
thanks.
Has it? Be clear the two in this post were a one-off thing because I forgot to link the post between FDL and Campaign Silo, which is a mistake, but it’s not one that happens often.
Exactly, and what’s McCheater gonna say…the Clintons don’t know anything about foreign policy????
Be careful. Age might=wisdom. /snark
Don’t see it happening. How many times does Gore have to say he’s not interested? “Been there, done that.”
[slaps forehead] Silly me! I had forgotten that The Benevolent Leadership has kindly supplied us with “Free Speech Zones,” so I guess it’s all academic.
Not yet done. Scheduled for tomorrow. Will let you know.
Well, there’s age=wisdom, but that also devolves into extreme age=Alzheimer’s. He’s the poster boy for Aricept…
I’m drooling already…!
Ha. The Nation ads on Olbermann. Wonder how it works for them.
Teefs ‘n’ Tufts is so clean and articulate, he could work graveyard at any 7-11!
Possible. That was one case where I think the high-mindedness of the Obama campaign went to far. Not only was Clark saying something that was obviously true, but it is the kind of discussion needed to counter the dangerous magical thinking which has become so influential in our politics.
And nice that Clark was willing to stand up to the celebrity talking heads, who are influential sources of that kind of decadent nonsense.
But we don’t know what is going on. Obama seems to ba very disciplined and focused campaigner. Maybe Word went out, and Clark said noway, I say what I want. In any case, good for Clark whether it cost him the VP slot or not.
Reply doesn’t seem to work correctly if you try to Reply before the page has finished refreshing/reloading. But if you are patient and wait it out, the Reply works just fine.
I have had this experience consistently in both Firefox and Safari.
I feel the pressure. Beads of sweat on forehead.
McThuselah
Rachel gets here show on MSNBC!!!! It’s official!!
I was too deep in my Cheney induced delirium to thank you for your highly informative post on Pakistan last night. edumacating links. Thanks
He’s a rethug, so he’ll say anything. And the canard that HRC will “energize the base” and increase rethug turnout is hogwash - they’d turn out regardless as long as their god, guns & gays issues are promised - oh, and, of course, and tax cuts!
Picking Hillary might be smart politically, but I don’t see Obama doing it.
He’s got to have someone who fits his “new politics” schtick.
Marion at 39….hahahahha…right…first they make you go to the “free speech zones” and then you can riot all you want, because you are already in a concentration camp. Bushco is so poisonous. Free speech is rioting if you are a Puke talking about a Dem.
There will surely be “peaceful, organized protests” at the Puke convention…oh yeah, and Blackwater.
I gotta admit, the “Toofs and Tufts” nickname makes me fall off my chair every time I see/hear it…!
My 1817 country house was built jointly by Methusalem DuBois and his son Phillip DuBois. So I have a nodding acquaintance with Methusalems. Huguenots for those who are interested.
The only way you can find out is by having multiple windows open, but Christy has a new post up on the main page.
Glad you liked it.
She’s also discussing the Veep situation.
I do not share the worry of some about Obama’s summer slide.
When I look at Obama’s electoral college vote base in states with solid support, it is steadily and slowly trending upward. McCain’s electoral vote base with solid support has been static or going down slightly. This gives Obama a good base from which to attack a pool of swing states.
But, then, I ask why have any swing states at all? Solid Obama states should be going up like a rocket, not decreasing. Still could be a landslide for Obama. Reagan muddled through the summer, and only started breaking out when he gave some solid political performances when voters were ready to pay attention towards end of summer.
Kerry’s electoral base of solid state cratered right about now due to Swiftboat, and his lack of an response. McCain’s swiftboat is much less swift to begin with, and given his advertising advantage this summer, has not made a big difference. Among GOP, things have gone from dread of being pulvarized, to a sliver of hope based on results at at time when most voters give unreliable and rapidly changing opinions. That is not much progress, in my opinion.
She would fit that description better than the much ballyhooed senator from Delaware but I agree it is unlikely. Maybe he should pick somebody completely off the radar. What’s Brad Pitt doing these days?
Christy has a new post up…
I want Neil Patrick Harris
FOR PRESIDENT!!!
Let’s not forget, though, that Wes Clark was fed that formulation about McCain’s service by Bob Scheiffer, whose brother is a Bush-appointed ambassador. It was very important for the right to shut Wes Clark down: former Supreme Commander of Nato forces, very progressive in his leadership in the military, hugely effective Democratic spokesperson on national security, and one of the few Democrats who can, based on his own personal life-threatening injuries incurred in VietNam, speak about John McCain’s service and its non-relationship to his qualifications for the office of the Presidency.
It was a setup.
And it worked.
nah
One can, I think, also write one’s response while the page loads, then go back to the intended comment and hit “Reply”
Oh, yay, Rachel is getting slammed on Countdown for reporting the BigFoot hoax!
I have received a hate-filled missive from “your” Raven, Firepups; with intemperate profanity and venom.
Raven set up a straw man, misrepresenting me, and then proceeds to knock it down. Or is someone impersonating this Raven character?
Cheap shots are just that. FDL is a site for serious discussion and good snark, but not this sort of nonsense, IMO.
Too much ego from some who live at their keyboards, methinks. Get a life and all that.
I agree, LS. I had posted a one word comment over on the riot site Marion had referenced herein: “Rove”.
“Great minds think alike” and so forth!
I’ve got issues with Biden because he voted for the bankruptcy bill.
Thanks.
Perhaps he didn’t get the gig because he tends to say stuff like this?