Oh those liberals at The Heritage Foundation! It turns out McCain is only exaggerating by roughly 1000%. First, here's what McCain said:
John McCain boasts that he can save $100 billion a year "immediately" by eliminating the so-called earmarks that legislators attach to spending bills to finance pet projects, usually in their home state. But he has refused to say exactly which projects he would cut, and his estimates of the amount of money that is being spent on earmarks have been challenged by independent experts.
Now, here's what Bruce Riedl of The Heritage Foundation said (same article):
Bruce Riedl, a budget analyst with the Heritage Foundation, says it might be possible to eliminate roughly half the expenditure on earmarks every year, i.e. around $9 billion, using the Taxpayers for Commonsense figures. He identified $5 billion in Community Development Block Grant funds, most of which goes to local governments, as a prime target for cuts. Even if earmarks were eliminated altogether, many other expenditures would have to be shifted to other parts of the budget.
Like other analysts, Riedl was mystified by McCain's argument that previous year's earmarks automatically become a "permanent part of the budget." "I don't understand how they come up with that," he told me.
Excluding those programs McCain has promised to preserve, the draconian slashing of earmark expenditures might save around $10 billion a year. But that is still a long way from the $100 billion in savings that McCain says that he can identify "immediately."
So once again, like with "Iran training Al Qaeda or "having no conflicts of interest" on his staff, McCain has once again been forced to back off of a false statement (same article):
The McCain camp now says that the senator never meant to suggest that his proposed $100 billion in savings would all come from earmarks. Holtz-Eakin told me that McCain had simply promised to cut overall spending by around $100 billion. Some of these savings will come from earmarks, some from other parts of the budget. He declined to identify which specific projects would be cut.
Asked whether McCain had misspoke or whether he had been misunderstood in his focus on eliminating earmarks, Holtz-Eakin replied: "a bit of both."
One more thing, from my book The Real McCain, from well-respected former longtime Senate staffer Winslow Wheeler, who challenged McCain on his failure to live up to his rhetoric on trying to eliminate pork, and paid for it with his job (McCain smeared him and got him fired):
This kind of talk was too much for at least one man. Wins-low Wheeler spent thirty-one years working for Senate mem-bers and at the General Accounting Office (GAO). Still a reg-istered Republican, he worked in the Senate for one Democ-rat, former Arkansas Senator David Pryor, and three Republi-cans, all belonging to the traditional center-right wing of the party: the late Senator Jacob Javits of New York, former Senator Nancy Landon Kassebaum of Kansas, and Senator Pete Domenici of New Mexico.
Wheeler isn’t exactly someone you’d expect to launch a withering critique of fellow Republicans. But he did, and it raised the ire of a certain senator from Arizona, who helped end Wheeler’s career in the Senate.
Wheeler had long noticed McCain’s tough talk on pork-barrel spending. In fact, cutting pork from spending bills is one of the planks McCain is running on in 2008 — an effort to appeal to conservatives tired of the free-spending Bush years as well as to display his supposed credentials as a “reformer.” But Wheeler hadn’t noticed much in the way of action from McCain. In 2002 he published a short book, under the pseu-donym Spartacus, called Mr. Smith Is Dead: No One Stands in the Way as Congress Lards Post-–September 11 Defense Bills with Pork. His purpose was to give McCain “a kick in the ass.”16
One of Wheeler’s anecdotes is particularly telling. When Senator Ted Stevens of Alaska was pushing for a $26 billion Boeing 767 lease that made no economic or strategic sense, McCain and Phil Gramm offered an amendment to thwart it. But according to Wheeler, here’s what really happened.
McCain included a cauterization of it in his “pork buster” speech: he called the operating lease “a sweet deal for the Boeing Company that I’m sure is the envy of corporate lobbyists from one end of K Street to the other.” He was supported by Sen. Phil Gramm, R-Texas, who said, “I do not think I have even seen a proposal that makes less sense economically and I have been here for 22 years.” Given the strong rhetoric, one would expect some strong action, right?
Not exactly. McCain and Gramm did offer an amendment to modify the 767 deal. Stevens accepted it without debate. He was smart to do so. As he explained to Gramm and McCain, the terms of the amendment changed nothing, and he would accept it for that reason. The amendment was pure cosmetics, but now McCain and Gramm could claim they did something.
Shortly after this charade, the Senate passed the bill and sent it to conference with the House to conform the two bodies’ different versions into one.17
McCain’s response? He got Wheeler fired. According to Wheeler (and a second source who wished to remain anony-mous), McCain went to Wheeler’s boss, Senator Pete Domenici, as well as other top-ranking Republican staffers, to argue that Wheeler could not be trusted. McCain made it clear, according to Wheeler, that he would be angry if Wheeler were not fired. Problem solved. McCain didn’t change his behavior to match his rhetoric — he just got rid of the guy who was willing to call him on it.
After Wheeler and I had discussed these circumstances at some length, he ended our conversation by saying in a fore-boding voice, “It’s frightening to think of a man with his tem-perament with all the things a President has at his fingertips — the IRS, CIA, FBI. . . .18
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John pulled “Magic Numbers” from his ass. They came out with the polyps.
I can think of a one earmark that would be worth a $100 billion just on its own. It’s called the Iraq war. I would eliminate that one right off the bat. As Ross Perot used to say, “Problem solved!”
Another new nickname? McFraud?
OT but tonights CBS News with Katie Couric was touting McCains robust health. Talked about other Presidents that had “serious” health problems, Wilson, Kennedy, FDR (all Dems). Not one word about Reagans alzheimers. Another puff piece by the corporate media to provide cover for their chosen one.
Mc$ame can make a silk purse out of a pork earmark.
What if McCain considers Social Security and Veterans Benefits as ear marks? Do McCain’s numbers work then?
McSucking-Sound
Katie’s ratings are down for a reason:)
McCain can make what he will of my upraised finger.
Is there ANYTHING that he won’t lie about? Or be “misinformed,” or “mistaken,” or “confused,” or just FLAT OUT FRACKING WRONG?
Does any one have any numbers about how much the US Dollar would go up if we just stopped spending on the war? There is a link between the National debt and the Dollars value I just want to know if there is an estimate to that number.
No. This has been another edition of “Simple Answers.”
or just FLAT OUT FRACKING WRONG?
He did run as the GOP Presidential Candidate who was most like Reagan.
Rescinding tax cuts for the rich, another $100 billion a year saved.
Simple Answers but still the 30%ers can’t understand what they pretend to read.
Sounds like you got a budget of your own in mind care to share.
Old, deceitful and of highly debatable competence?
I was afraid of that… Thanks, I think…
If y’all are faced with dyed-in-the-wool Repub voters, as I am, I’ve found a way to make the current economy in the country clear to them. I ask them to pick 99 people, including themselves and their family and friends, and lock them in a room. I then add 1 person (The Republican Party) and 1 pie. I then suggest that the way it works today we cut the pie in quarters, the last single person added walks out of the room with 1/4 of the pie and the rest of them get to split the rest. It’s been a bit of an eye-opener for some of them.
McShame
McFlame
McSame
What a waste of a person.
Kait *C[ou]rickets*
great post Cliff..I dugg this, but it’s only showing up on the front page???
Love it. Visual and delicious…..even if most of us only get a crumb.
Yep:)
The only thing to add is that it was the 99 who baked the pie.
Which, given the current economy, is the best we can hope for… Which is why I generally pick a lemon meringue pie — even a tiny bit still tastes good. But more would taste better and be more equitable.
You just explained how freemarket capitalism works in the real world not in theory A rising tide lifts all
boatsdead fish,THANKS!!! I’m adding that — great addition!
http://www.pubrecord.org/
Pentagon Connected Ministry’s Obama Bashing Message
By Chris Rodda
The Public Record
May 22, 2008
Published in : Nation/World
The almost incomprehensible attack on Barack Obama below is excerpted from a “Sermon of the Month” by Dr. Cecil Todd, founder of Revival Fires International,
Excerpts from “Who I Want In The White House!”
By Dr. Cecil Todd
Today, a fierce political battle rages across our nation, as once again the American people will be choosing who will lead our country as President, for the next four years!
The top contenders in this race are Hillary Clinton, Barack Hussein Obama and John McCain — all three of these Presidential wannabe’s are U.S. Senators.
Many sincere — seeking Americans are asking “WHO WOULD BE THE BEST PERSON OF THESE THREE PEOPLE TO SERVE AS PRESIDENT OF THE MOST POWERFUL NATION IN THE WORLD?”
……………………………
As a minister, I am forbidden by law to tell you how to vote! (I would never do that!) Yet, we all know this law is being broken again and again by many ministers, who are pushing their liberal candidates! I will urge you , “Do not vote as a Democrat … and do not vote as a Republican … BUT AS A CHILD OF GOD BE SURE TO VOTE!
As a servant of the most high God, I beg you, “Do not vote for a ‘baby-killer,’ or a promoter of the homosexual life-style or someone who will sell-out our freedoms as a nation and as Christians! That does narrow down the candidates!
I’ve always sneered at that rising tide/boats thing. The wake from all those big boats swamps my rowboat…
Not so much a budget but just the realization that huge amounts of money are being wasted or put to non-productive purposes in the economy.
Take the income cap off of Social Security
Increase capital gains taxes so that investment income is not favored over work income
Don’t use the Social Security surpluses to mask the size of the deficit
Have hedge fund managers declare their compensation as income not capital gains
Stop middle man trades in derivatives (that allow investment banks to take on trillions of dollars of risk. Think Bear Stearns)
Increase the money down on futures contracts from the current 5-7% to 30-50%
Rescind the Bush tax cuts
Get out of Iraq
Move to single payer universal healthcare
Conservation, investment in non-carbon renewables, mass transit, green city planning
Invest in education with better grant programs
Invest in basic research
These are some of the ideas that I think would help us out of the blind alley we’re accelerating into.
Auditioning for Dana’s job, are we?
The Great McCain Gaffe-a-Thon rolls on…Watching the worst Presidential campaign in history is making me addicted to popcorn.
Schecter’s the salt on that popcorn…
And grew the ingredients and harvested them and chopped the peaches/walnuts/etc. and dug the coal or chopped the wood that fueled the stove — and will certainly, don’t you doubt it, wash the dishes! Let ‘em eat crumbs! (And how many houses does McShame own???)
Typical McBush. Like Cheney at the Coast Guard Academy graduation, he’s all hat and no cattle. But then his claim to have cut the tanker earmark was as fraudulent as his claim to be pro-election reform. He’s a lobbyist’s dream: all ego, all reactive, and so desperate for high office that he’ll do anything to get it - and keep it.
He would be less inclined than Cheney to diss the law to get what he wants, including domestic political payback on his enemies. He’s more conservative and would be more radical and more dangerous a president than George Bush.
McCain’s response? He got Wheeler fired. According to Wheeler (and a second source who wished to remain anony-mous), McCain went to Wheeler’s boss, Senator Pete Domenici, as well as other top-ranking Republican staffers, to argue that Wheeler could not be trusted. McCain made it clear, according to Wheeler, that he would be angry if Wheeler were not fired. Problem solved. McCain didn’t change his behavior to
Cliff Wheeler sounds cool invite him to the Lake sometime I’m sure we all want to know how and why McCrazy got him fired.
Accept science
Comprehend facts
Grow up
Somewhere between eight and ten homes more than I do, as I recall.
I would like to add stop margin loans or limit them to only 20% above collateral but this sounds like a good post invite me if you get it posted:)
also estimated savings for as many of these ideas as you can find would be nice.
I meant to say McBush would be less inclined to respect the law than Cheney in order to achieve his domestic or foreign policy objectives.
Hugh:
Not only are you a most fantastic chronicler extrordinaire of malfeasance, you have just, in a nutshell, spelled out our ONLY sane route henceforth, in human terms, in economic terms, and in environmental terms.
Standing, cheering, clapping wildly in appreciation and deepest respect and admiration …
David
Yeah. I’ll be happy if I can hang onto the one I’ve got. I never thought I’d get to be a ‘woman of a certain age’ and be so worried about making it all the way to the finish line. The last 7+ years have been so sad.
Stop being so realistic. You’re just making McCain look bad. Republics are supposed to be able to just say things like “balanced budget” and “stop earmarks”. No one is supposed to notice that they never actually do anything about them. Your list makes that so obvious.
I think McCane should put Cheney in charge of the VP selection committee.
Completely and utterly OT, but sometimes we need to smile. The new little gray kitteh who has just joined us has just realized that the catnip toy is HIS. He one happy kitteh…
OT: but while we’re talking about dumbing down….. why are our soldiers saying they found a ‘cash-shay’ of arms rather than a cache (cash)? Did the neocons think it somehow productive or purposeful to encourage our soldiers to talk dumb?
What’s with that?
sadly not just mcsame.
Thank you for asking a question I have wondered about since the occupation began. I thought maybe it was just a military thing - but it drives me nuts.
i see. hoover did inhale. *g*
because it has a certain cachet?
Special Comment on Clinton tonight.
As a servant of the most high God, I beg you, “Do not vote for a ‘baby-killer,’ or a promoter of the homosexual life-style or someone who will sell-out our freedoms as a nation and as Christians! That does narrow down the candidates!
Who is harmed if Gays get married the Bible defends Slavery to you chump!
We have some very high infant mortality rates in this country but rather than get national health insurance the right fights for babies the parents don’t want. They ignore the babies that the Parents do Fucking Want!
The freedom’s of a Christian Nation where are you guys when the government listens to our phone calls where are you when people are being held without a trial, where are the Christians when people are being tortured in CIA black site prisons?
35For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’
37″Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’
40″The King will reply, ‘I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.’
http://www.biblegateway.com/pa.....version=31
Yep only Lefties are going to heaven Preacher man
Jesus said to them: “Watch out that no one deceives you. 6Many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am he,’ and will deceive many. 7When you hear of wars and rumors of wars, do not be alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. 8Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be earthquakes in various places, and famines. These are the beginning of birth pains.
http://www.biblegateway.com/pa.....version=31
the upstairs zed is dead.
http://firedoglake.com/2008/05.....nt-1459166
A lot of them come from places like Savannah, where you will hear radio and TV commercials advertising a “SUIT” of furniture, instead of a suite. It happens…
Hugh, you and I agree on a sensible realistic agenda. That shows clearly how smart you are.
(Hoping for snark+compliment)
Iraq:
Cash - Cache - Cachet
Money? - treasure? - prestige?
What will they make of Iran?
(”Bomb - bomb - bomb”)
Ca(t)chee stuff … sure enuf …
Thanks, Marion, for the memories. I spent formative years in Houston where English was routinely mangled (and where they thought we were from England! Nope, California) and then college in Arizona … sweet if somewhat primitive, and then many years in South Ohio (Appalachiaville) where a ’suit of furniture’ was really special! God love ‘em all. I just really wondered if there were an officer or two who might say, “Hey, guys, it’s cache (cash.)” I guess there isn’t anyone working the lines who speaks real English. And yet they would all go bonkers over Spanglish. Wow, what a place we live in.
Ok, I’m looking all over for comments on this bullshit Hillary laid down. . .I see not a peep here. WTF?
Raven:
Check my comment at the bottom of “The Far Right turns on McCain … Again”, two threads back.
David
Cool
That sum it up nicely and much more politely than a barbarian like myself would be. Where’s Juno?
Wow, these ideas are so succintly and clearly stated that I would vote for Hugh to be Obama’s vice president. These statements should be the economic/healthcare/Iraq policy planks of the Democratic party. The only thing that I would add is that we need to regulate all banking/lending/consolidated loan obligations that have created the housing crisis.
Whoa! I’m sure you’ve all seen it, but I’m left-coast. KO just excoriated Clinton for her crude assassination reference. Truth will out. When I listened to her say those things I actually didn’t see or hear mal-intent — just self-serving stupidity. How does one say any plainer, “I’m sticking around to see if my opponent survives to the polling.” Shame on her.
As Everette Dirksen once remarked, ” A billion here, a billion there…pretty soon you’re talking real money.”
I read on one of the blogs today that McCain is 12 percentage points ahead with white voters in one survey. Who are these people? I live in a very conservative, middle class, mostly white area and I don’t think he’s even ahead here.
If the average voter can’t see how past his due date McCain is, I wonder if they should even be voting.